Now called "Post birth abortion" by certain moral cripples:
"I have just written about two academics who have offered a spirited defence of killing newborn babies. Now the editor of the journal they were published in comes to their defence, and the defence of infanticide. And worse yet, he says those who are opposed to this are guilty of “hate speech”. I kid you not.
But perhaps we should not be surprised about all this. The editor, Julian Savulescu, is in fact infamous for his rather perverted ethical stances.
He now defends baby killing and denounces those who dare to express their concerns about this diabolical activity. And he is a leading, influential ethicist!
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It is one of the oldest, most often used, and most effective, tactics used by the Left. Demonize anyone or anything they disagree with. And, with the ever-present help of the MSM, this tactic does in fact, create "demons" in the minds of the public, assuming you believe they have minds.
So now opposing abortion is hate speech but opposing logging is freeom of expression LIBERALS ARE TOTALY EVIL
Remember their motto, do as we say, not as we do...
Their reasoning is logically consistent with the pro-abortion arguments. They say the baby isn't a "person" yet (using the same criteria as abortion proponents), so it's okay to kill it.
These pronouncements certainly help clarify exactly what the pro-abortion arguments are.
History is littered with the horrendous results of designating certain groups of people as "subhuman" or "non-persons". So why are some people so willing to go down that road yet again?
Didn't God's angelic agent kill all the first-born of Egypt? Didn't he say disobedient children should be stoned to death? Didn't God create all life on earth including bacteria and viruses that killed, and still kill, countless infants and children. God is pretty good at infanticide!
That was part of the 12 pluagues god layed upon egypt to force them to free the isralits
"Anon 4:52 is an example of the hate within most liberals"
He got that stuff from the Holy Bible. Are you saying the Holy Bible is a liberal document?
It is a sad commentary, that when confronted with debate and ideas, the left can only diminish its opposition by labeling the other side.
It is a sad commentary, that when confronted with debate and ideas, the left can only diminish its opposition by labeling the other side.
God is pretty good at infanticide!
Short version of a long argument: God's relationship to us is very different than our relationship to each other. Bringing up an unrelated argument does not address this issue.
Great local lead for you. Anti Obama ad put up on metro, about obamacare, says "Barack go to hell". Liberals are going insane, Congressman Jim Moran (my local antisemitic democrat) is demanding it be taken down despite the first amendment.
http://www.arlnow.com/2012/02/29/ad-in-clarendon-metro-station-go-to-hell-barack/
WMATA advertising has been ruled by the courts as a public forum protected by the First Amendment of the Constitution, and we may not decline ads based on their political content. WMATA does not endorse the advertising on our system, and ads do not reflect the position of the Authority.
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The press release of Metro re: the advertisement.
Anon 452, Seriously? You are attempting to justify infanticide by searching for some moral equivalence in taking biblical situations out of context and applying them inappropriately? How can anyone objectively not see that as vile, evil, and monstrous? The benefit of this incident is it further exposes the repugnant malignant vicious nature of anti-theist leftists.
What about professor killing?
A truly sick society is one that allows for the killing of babies while orotecting anaimate trees and rocks
To the left life has no value and never has. Hitler (National Socialist), Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot all slaughtered the sub-humans in the name of the State.
And the slippery Slope begins.
Given this mentality, what is to prevent parents from "post-birth aborting" their unruly teen? Or a child "post-birth aborting" a sick grandparent? Or a wife "post-birth aborting" an alcoholic husband? Or a student "post-birth aborting" a professor?
So quoting from the Bible is always "out of context" when it doesn't sound "nice", but is "clear" when the words suit the believer?
Luke is giving the Divine version of "do as I say, not as I do"! (Another poster always says that is the motto of Leftists.)
Luke has always, on this blog, cherry picked Bible passages that suit his rants/arguments. Don't expect that to change anytime soon.
Questions for the Anonymous trolls:
Did you create the universe and all life? Does a being who has the ability to create life also have the legitimate authority to take that same life?
Put another way:
If you build a custom car (and retain ownership), who has the legitimate authority to destroy that car? Anyone else? Or only you?
Luke has always, on this blog, cherry picked Bible passages that suit his rants/arguments.
You're a hypocrite.
Luke is absolutely correct in his rebuttal. When God condemns, He does so by the rather pedantic argument that He MADE it, so He is free to do as He pleases with it.
God does not see death as the End of Existence, just a "phase change" of the soul. You might as well say that ice being turned to water by someone is "evil." Only those who question God's rights (or more usually, His existence, without which there is no "good" or "evil," only "opinion" ) would argue that God ever commits "evil."
Killing the unborn is ok?
This from the same group that wants to give civil right to cows, chickens and dogs.
Their "logic" is like watching a train wreck in slow motion!
Wow 4:50. So God's "morality" is the opposite of what humans' should be! What an "Alice Through the Looking-glass" world theists live in! aka "Crazy"!!
Well 4.50 AM, if death is only a "phase-change" then what does it matter how many fetuses, babies, children or indeed adults die or are killed!? Your logic is bizarre, like most theology when it is examined under the proverbial microscope.
So God's "morality" is the opposite of what humans' should be!
No. It's a question of authority. You do not have the authority to murder another human being any more than you have the authority to destroy someone else's car. But the owner of that car does have the authority to trash his own car. Likewise, all life belongs to God.
Of course, it's not at all surprising that someone who refuses to accept God's authority doesn't (or more like refuses to) get this.
These concepts are nothing new. Eugenics programs were widely supported in the early to mid parts of the last century, particularly among Socialists such as Margret Sanger and Adolph Hitler.
These “ethics” came to their fullest fruition starting on July 14, 1933, shortly after the National Socialist came to power in Germany, with the issuance of their "Law for the Prevention of Progeny with Hereditary Diseases." The National Socialist “Aktion Tiergartenstraße 4” (“aka “Action T4”) program, based on Adolph Hitler’s theory of “Lebensunwertes Leben“ (Life Unworth Living) resulted in the “after-birth abortions“ of not less than 70,000 “morally irrelevant“ people lacking, from the National Socialist perspective, a “moral right to life” (to use the currently in-vogue and apparently politically correct language.)
What can you say, Socialist will be Socialists. There is nothing that that politically correct language can’t justify to a socialist. The National Socialists (aka Nazis) were masters of politically correct language.
To learn more about such “ethics” google “Nazi eugenics programs.”
Multi-Culturalism is a eugenics program.
Zionist Barbara Spectre suggests that "Europe" will not survive if it does not embrace the infinite multicultural hordes who cannot possibly have 'Europe' because it is not in them....
Spectre would have us believe that "Europe" is a social construct. She speaks, hisses even, with a knowing forked tongue, ready always to cower your suspicions with flicker of the 'holocausssssssssstttt' memory.
When will you stupid Christian Zionists 'get it'.... I can assure this, when you finally do, your rage will be inconsolable by the likes of Spectre, because you have been duped, conned and played for fools, all while the Spectre laughs at you.
Those who urge the 'jews' to speak the truth...ha..ha...,, do so because we do not like to see others participate in the jewish religion as inevitable duped 'persecutors' of the 'jews'.
"You do not have the authority to murder another human"
You do if you join the army, be a prison executioner, etc.
Yes Luke, I did "get it" - there is one self-determined set of morals for "God" and another (almost opposite) set he imposed on his human creations. Good luck with that "God" who can confuse you so much over the concept of "objective morality"!!
You do if you join the army, be a prison executioner, etc.
Read it again: "Murder"
murder = killing = semantics = opinion. Luke = cherry picking = wrong. Try again.
murder = killing = semantics = opinion
= equivocation (and here)
Once again, Anonymous is claiming to be the rational one, but actually arguing illogically.
Belief does not require proof or logic.
Knowledge: justified true belief
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