Sunday, July 25, 2010



Prayer forbidden!

One would think that the 1st Amendment guarantees freedom FROM religion
"Arizona school children are told they can't pray in front of the Supreme Court building ... Two University of Texas Arlington employees are fired for praying over a co-worker's cubicle after work hours ... In Cranston, R.I., a high school banner causes controversy when a parent complains it contains a prayer and demands that it be removed.

There are more legal challenges to prayer in the United States than ever before, says Annie Laurie Gaylor, co-founder of the Freedom From Religion Foundation, an atheist organization whose business is booming as Americans increasingly tackle church vs. state issues.

In Augusta, Ga., the city's law department just issued a legal opinion defending the city's practice of a pre-meeting prayer, saying it does not violate federal law. The statement was in response to the Freedom From Religion Foundation's letter to the mayor's office urging him to stop the invocations at the start of meetings. The foundation sent similar letters to three cities in South Carolina.

"These are flagrant violations of the laws," Gaylor says. Not so, says Nate Kellum, an attorney with the Alliance Defense Fund, which is representing the Arizona school children and their teacher, Maureen Rigo, who say they were told they couldn't pray on the steps of the U.S. Supreme Court in Washington.

"Religious liberties are under attack across the country," Kellum says. "My sense is that there's some type of knee-jerk reaction, almost an allergic reaction, if someone sees the expression of religion," he says. And the bulk of the complaints are directed at Christians, he says.

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12 comments:

Anonymous said...

If all the public prayers were to allah, then the atheist would have no problems with them, their father, satan, would be proud of them.

Anonymous said...

Would a father be proud of children who don't even recognize his existence?

Anonymous said...

Why isn't this organized attack on Christianity being seen for what it is, religious discrimination. That's exaclty what it would be called if their target was jews or muslims.

Some day, when we as a society mature and grow up, we will be forced to look at whether we should ban cults like the atheists, or ban organized religion. Obviously, the two can not co-exist, thanks to the never ending attacks by atheists. Just remember, if religions are to be banned, then "all" religions will be banned, not just Christianity. We should also look at why we allow a small group of radical cultists to dictate what "we choose" to believe in. If we can't force our beliefs on them, (and we shouldn't) then they should not be allowed to force theirs on the overwhelming majority of people in this country.

As someone living in a supposedly free country, i will not tolerate anyone telling me what i can, or can not, believe in. Violating my First Amendment rights will only cause me to exercise my 2nd Amendment rights.

Anonymous said...

You like to charactarize atheists as another religion or cult so you can dismiss it as such. Unlike Christianity, Atheism doesn't attempt to impose itself on people or deny you the right to believe what you like, it merely challenges you to justify your beliefs - are you scared by that? Are you incapable of responding to the Atheists' arguments sensibly? Frankly you don't seem to stand up very well by any standard.

Anonymous said...

"Unlike Christianity, Atheism doesn't attempt to impose itself on people or deny you the right to believe what you like,"

Nice try. The Declaration of Independence, the document that provides the reason why the United States was founded, clearly states our position with God. And the United States Constitution, the document upon which our laws are founded, is signed, "In the year of our Lord..." which clearly and specifically refers to the Christian Jesus. This is just part of the myriad of proof that the United States was founded as a Christian-centric country. Yet Atheists continually litigate to deny and change that fact. And you claim that Atheism doesn't impose itself. Ha!

Anonymous said...

The US was founded in the context of a Christian culture - you state the obvious. Do you think everything should be "fossilized" as the 13 colonies were in 1776. Well maybe you do if you are a fundamentalist Christian who would like the world to be fossilized as it was 2000 years ago or even more!

Sean said...

"Unlike Christianity, Atheism doesn't attempt to impose itself on people or deny you the right to believe what you like,"

You have obviously never encountered any Atheists here in South Florida.

Anonymous said...

Anon 3:03 AM, no, I would like the Liberalism that has corrupted and corroded the United States to go away. Abortion, gay marriage, the removal of God from schools, parental respect from children. A fundamentalist Christian doesn't have to go back 2000 years, only less than 100 years. And for most of these, less than 40 years.

Anonymous said...

8:28 am - I'm afraid the world doesn't stay still - it revolves and things "evolve", maybe not how'd you'd like. However I don't think you'd really like to live in the world as it was 200 or 2000 year ago, there are many other things there you certainly wouldn't like!!.

Anonymous said...

Priest kills baby.

Anonymous said...

Anon 3:53, your logic is flawed. Just because a country lives under the moral and ethical code of 100 years ago does not preclude that society remains at that state. For example, the state of technology and medicine certainly would not remain at 100-years-ago levels. Those things continue to advance.

Anonymous said...

11:55PM I think your reasoning is as selective as you would like social evolution to be. You are happy for the advances in medicine and technology but think other aspects of society should be "frozen" in ways you prefer. You can't have your cake and eat it too.