Australia: Must not say that someone looks homosexual
What happened to "gay pride"?
"Channel 9 commentators Eddie McGuire and Mick Molloy have come under fire over comments made about the men's ice skating. In their Winter Olympics wrap last night, the pair took aim at some of the costumes worn by the male competitors in the figure skating.
As the pair discussed the men's figure skating, Molloy said: "They don't leave anything in the locker room these blokes do they", before a sniggering McGuire interjected, adding "they don't leave anything in the closet either do they." Molloy was quick to jokily reprimand McGuire, warning him he could get into trouble.
The network then cut to an image of a skater wearing a tuxedo-style costume, which Molloy described as something even singer Prince would not wear. The footage then showed a skater wearing a costume of overalls and a flannelette shirt with McGuire suggesting it was "a bit of broke back".
Molloy agreed saying: "A bit of Brokeback Mountain exercises, you can't wear that." The pair was referring to the Heath Ledger film Brokeback Mountain about a pair of gay cowboys.
Channel 9 was believed to have received several complaints from viewers about the comments, the Herald Sun said. Social media networks were also awash with comments from viewers appalled at the comments.
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I don't get Channel 9, why would they use commentators that don't respect the sport they're covering? What's next? ESPN invites Harvey Fierstein to cover Monday Night Football?
Ice skating is an artistic sport, of course the skaters are gonna wear funny costumes for visual effect. This isn't political correctness, this is having the wrong people for the job. It's like asking Howard Stern to judge American Idol.
The question is why is Channel 9 covering a sport they obviously don't like? I'd like to see those Channel 9 jackoffs do the triple jumps or those crazy spins while holding a woman in the air with just one hand.
The same type of comment was made last night on CBS's "Late, Late Show", by the MC, some clown named Ferguson i think. He follows comrade Letterman.
He said, "if these scaters are going to dress like that, why don't they call it what it is, a gay pride parade". Of course, being one of CBS's liberals, nothing will be said of his remark.
And i agree with ghoward. If the queers don't like the comments, let them try to look normal. Besides, two of the things fags love the most are, whining about anything they dislike, and attention. So they're actually happy about this.
ESPN invites Harvey Fierstein to cover Monday Night Football?
So a comedian, a playwright, or an actor can't comment on football?
I guess Dennis Miller didn't know that, eh?
Ice skating is an artistic sport, of course the skaters are gonna wear funny costumes for visual effect.
I see. So you believe that wearing a costume that is ridiculed somehow helps the competition?
This isn't political correctness,
Of course it is. How dare someone criticize skaters for what you state is an important part of the competition. That is what you are saying.
this is having the wrong people for the job.
People can't have opinions? People can't express those opinions? Only people that follow the party line of "gee, those ice skating outfits are just fabulous!" need apply?
The question is why is Channel 9 covering a sport they obviously don't like?
How does being critical of an element of a competition equate to "being a sport they obviously don't like?"
I'd like to see those Channel 9 jackoffs do the triple jumps or those crazy spins while holding a woman in the air with just one hand.
Okay. That means Howard Cosell would never had been a commentator. That would mean that since you have never run a business, you should never comment on a decision a business makes. You would never criticize the military because you have never been in the military. Of course, we know that as someone who says they always support free speech, you would never want to restrict the speech of another.
Yet you just did.
"So a comedian, a playwright, or an actor can't comment on football?"
---Yes they can, that's not the issue, the issue is having the wrong person for the job. It's like having a PETA person judge a fur competition.
"I guess Dennis Miller didn't know that, eh?"
---Did Dennis Miller made fun of the players because they bend over in front of other men? Did he ridicule how they pat each other in the butt? No. Why? Because Dennis understands football.
"I see. So you believe that wearing a costume that is ridiculed somehow helps the competition?"
---Just because some people find the outfits ridiculous doesn't mean everybody does. You know, Liberace wore outrageous custumes yet not only was he famous, but the museum that has all his memorabilia in Vegas is quite popular. Besides, I don't judge football fans just because they paint their bodies and wear beer hats, to each his own.
"Of course it is. How dare someone criticize skaters for what you state is an important part of the competition. That is what you are saying."
---They didn't just criticize the skaters, they mocked them. Besides, what's wrong with being outraged by some stupid comments? Bill O'reilly was pretty annoyed when Elton John said Jesus was gay. Is Bill politically correct for giving a damn?
"People can't have opinions? People can't express those opinions? Only people that follow the party line of "gee, those ice skating outfits are just fabulous!" need apply?"
---You can say that the outfits look ridiculous, you don't have to demean the players by mentioning Brokeback Mountain.
"How does being critical of an element of a competition equate to "being a sport they obviously don't like?"
---Look, golfers wear ridiculous outfits yet do you see golf announcers making fun of the players? I rest my case.
"Okay. That means Howard Cosell would never had been a commentator. That would mean that since you have never run a business, you should never comment on a decision a business makes.
---Fine, you win there.
"Of course, we know that as someone who says they always support free speech, you would never want to restrict the speech of another."
---Government censorship is not the same as people getting pissed off with something they saw on TV and calling the station. I for example boycotted the Dixie Chicks after they insulted President Bush, does that make me a censor? Am I a fascist because I stopped listening to their music and wrote against them online?
---Yes they can, that's not the issue, the issue is having the wrong person for the job. It's like having a PETA person judge a fur competition.
So your comment that Harvey Fierstein shouldn't do MNF is not accurate then.
---Just because some people find the outfits ridiculous doesn't mean everybody does.
Never said it did. But the fact of the matter is that the costumes are often loudly criticized and ridiculed.
---They didn't just criticize the skaters, they mocked them.
Mocking isn't a form or criticism?
Besides, what's wrong with being outraged by some stupid comments?
Nothing. Of course your outrage slipped into wanting the people to shut up and a belief that because they disagree with you, they were incompetent to do the job.
---You can say that the outfits look ridiculous, you don't have to demean the players by mentioning Brokeback Mountain.
You were saying something about this not being political correctness?
---Look, golfers wear ridiculous outfits yet do you see golf announcers making fun of the players? I rest my case.
Good. Because golfer's outfits are the targets of comments all the time. Take a look at some of the comments made about the "John Daly pants."
As usual, you just proved my point.
---Government censorship is not the same as people getting pissed off with something they saw on TV and calling the station.
So your previously stated opinion that no corporation should ever have the right to stop an employee from saying anything is now not what you believe?
Interesting.
---You can say that the outfits look ridiculous, you don't have to demean the players by mentioning Brokeback Mountain.
how is demeaning to them unless you're saying faggotry is wrong
"So your comment that Harvey Fierstein shouldn't do MNF is not accurate then."
---I think it's accurate, Harvey is qualified to opine on theater because he's been an actor all his life. He isn't qualified to opine on football because I doubt he even watches the sport. The point I'm trying to make is that the Channel 9 commentators are probably not fans of ice skating and thus not qualified to provide commentary.
"Never said it did. But the fact of the matter is that the costumes are often loudly criticized and ridiculed."
---I saw a segment about the new outfits on Nightline, and I have to give them credit for being fair and balanced and interviewing people who hate the new outfits as well as those who like them. Commentators could learn a thing or two from that segment.
"Mocking isn't a form or criticism?"
---It's childish and immature, the kind of crap that belongs to a clown like John Stewart.
"Nothing. Of course your outrage slipped into wanting the people to shut up and a belief that because they disagree with you, they were incompetent to do the job."
---#1. Nobody is entitled to a job, as you have often told me, your career success depends on your own efforts and abilities. #2. TV personalities live and die by their audience, if your audience is made up of mostly ice skating fans then don't insult their intelligent by telling stupid jokes about the ice skaters being like the cowboys at Brokeback Mountain.
"You were saying something about this not being political correctness?"
---Not every outrage has to do with political correctness.
"Good. Because golfer's outfits are the targets of comments all the time. Take a look at some of the comments made about the "John Daly pants."
---Were those comments made by golf announcers during the tournament they where covered? If they were, you win, I lose. But generally when I watch golf I don't see the announcers ridiculing the players.
"So your previously stated opinion that no corporation should ever have the right to stop an employee from saying anything is now not what you believe?"
---I never stated that, I stated that government censorship is different from private censorship. For example, when The Dixie Chicks insulted president Bush, our commander in chief said nothing, his people said nothing, but country music fans boycotted the group and asked country music stations not to play their music. The chicks apologized but it was too late, the damage was done and they ended up having to go into a another musical genre that tolerates Bush Derangement Syndrome.
See? In a free society the people have the right to put pressure on things they don't like. Liberals do it, conservatives do it, libertarians do it, we all do it.
And yes, corporations can and do stop employees from saying anything they want. John Stossel for example had lots of fights with ABC because he wanted to do specials about how evil "free" healthcare is among other topics, yet ABC wouldn't let him. So, he moved to the Fox Business Network where his views are welcomed with open arms.
Elton John says Jesus looked (was) like a HOMO!
---I think it's accurate, Harvey is qualified to opine on theater because he's been an actor all his life.
So another flipflop from you. What a shocker that is.
---I saw a segment about the new outfits on Nightline, and I have to give them credit for being fair and balanced and interviewing people who hate the new outfits as well as those who like them.
And? What is your point? That the commentators shouldn't be able to say that they hate the costumes? Because "Nightline" does a piece that gives what you believe is balanced that the Channel 9 commentators should shut up?
---It's childish and immature, the kind of crap that belongs to a clown like John Stewart.
So you agree that it is a form of criticism. Thanks.
---Not every outrage has to do with political correctness.
This one is.
---Were those comments made by golf announcers during the tournament they where covered? If they were, you win, I lose. But generally when I watch golf I don't see the announcers ridiculing the players.
Yes, those comments are made during tournaments so you do lose. Secondly, the commentators you hate so much didn't say anything during the skating. They made the comment in a wrap up segment on the Olympics. By your own standards, the comments were made fairly.
John Stossel for example had lots of fights with ABC because he wanted to do specials about how evil "free" healthcare is among other topics, yet ABC wouldn't let him. So, he moved to the Fox Business Network where his views are welcomed with open arms.
Really? Stossel says differently. Read his statement as to why he left ABC. It has nothing to do with what you say. This is just another fabrication from you.
"So you agree that it is a form of criticism. Thanks."
---When Don Imus referred to NBA players as nappy headed ho's, did he not get punished for it? Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.
"Yes, those comments are made during tournaments so you do lose. Secondly, the commentators you hate so much didn't say anything during the skating. They made the comment in a wrap up segment on the Olympics. By your own standards, the comments were made fairly."
---Fine, you win. I still think the comments were stupid and rude, but that's just my opinion and you're not going to convince me otherwise.
---When Don Imus referred to NBA players as nappy headed ho's, did he not get punished for it? Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.
Don Imus made no such statement. He therefore was not punished for a statement that does not exist.
---Fine, you win. I still think the comments were stupid and rude, but that's just my opinion and you're not going to convince me otherwise.
See, you are entitled to that opinion and if you had just said that, I would not have said a word. However, when you start to make things up, lie, and distort facts, you lose credibility.
"Don Imus made no such statement. He therefore was not punished for a statement that does not exist."
Yes he did!
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/12/national/main2675273.shtml
"See, you are entitled to that opinion and if you had just said that, I would not have said a word. However, when you start to make things up, lie, and distort facts, you lose credibility."
---Look, almost everything we discuss here is opinion. Tongue Tied 3 provides the stories and we provide the commentary. It would be redundant for me to write "In my opinion," every time I start a paragraph.
Yes he did!
No, he did not.
Here is what you orginally wrote: When Don Imus referred to NBA players as nappy headed ho's,.......
From your sourced article:
.....following a week of uproar over the radio host's derogatory comments about the Rutgers women's basketball team.
Understand the difference now?
When you play fast and loose with the facts, you lose credibility.
---Look, almost everything we discuss here is opinion. Tongue Tied 3 provides the stories and we provide the commentary. It would be redundant for me to write "In my opinion," every time I start a paragraph.
It is redundant that you make stuff up all the time, but that hasn't stopped you at all.
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