Friday, October 16, 2009



Naughty pastor says ‘Islam is violent’. Horrors!

We read:
"More than a year after he was forced to disown his Chicago pastor, President Obama has begun to attend services led by a Christian chaplain who views Islam as a violent faith.

Mr Obama has been an irregular church attender since becoming President, but has expressed a fondness for Carey Cash, the navy chaplain at the Camp David presidential retreat who has been criticised for proselytising in the military and his mistrust of Islam.

The emergence of Mr Cash, 39, who was profiled on the front page of The Washington Post yesterday, will pose some tough questions for the White House — and for President Obama, whose father was Muslim. In a 2004 book describing his deployment to Iraq the year before, Mr Cash calls Islam violent, a faith that “from its very birth has used the edge of the sword as a means to convert or conquer those with different religious convictions”.

Mr Cash, a chaplain in one of the first units to reach Baghdad, believes that a “wall of angels” protected his troops when they fought their way to the Iraqi capital in March 2003. During his deployment he baptised more than 50 servicemen. In his book, A Table in the Presence: The Dramatic Account of How a US Marine Battalion Experienced God’s Presence Amidst the Chaos of the War in Iraq, Mr Cash said of the mission: “Yes, our men were lost and separated. But our God was not confused. Just as He had from the very beginning of the war, He was providentially working all things together for the good of a cause that was just and true.”

Since Mr Obama, who opposed the war in Iraq, disowned the Rev Jeremiah Wright for his incendiary sermons during the presidential campaign last year, he has been hesitant about choosing a new pastor and has declined to pick a church to attend regularly. He likes Mr Cash and the Evergreen Chapel at Camp David, which is 70 miles (113km) from Washington and closed to the public and press. He told reporters this summer that Mr Cash “delivers as powerful a sermon as I’ve heard in a while. I really think he’s excellent”.

Mr Cash has been criticised by the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, a watchdog that monitors proselytising in the military, for his work with Campus Crusade for Christ’s Military Ministry. According to the watchdog, the group’s goal is to transform the US military into a force of “government-paid missionaries for Christ”.

Source

There's not much transforming needed. U.S. forces in the Middle East are probably the most Christian Army since Cromwell's New Model Army. But no-one forced them to be so. It was the experience of grace that made them so.

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

"Mr Cash calls Islam violent, a faith that “from its very birth has used the edge of the sword as a means to convert or conquer those with different religious convictions”.

That's the funny thing about a fact. You can disagree with it, but you can't change it.

As for president Odumbo's sudden embrace of Christianity, don't be fooled. It's just more of his phony pandering, which is about the only thing he's an expert at.

Anonymous said...

Makes it sound like both sides are fighting with a TRIBAL GOD on their respective sides - if so, they deserve each other, and we haven't advanced since the WWI.

Use the Name, Luke said...

So… Mr. Cash is a Christian Chaplain — which is just the term for a preacher attached to the military — who is convinced that Christianity is actually true. But somehow he's supposed to be a Christian Preacher without letting on to those he's preaching to that he's a Christian Preacher.

I must be missing something here. Can't… quite… put… my… finger… on… it…

Anonymous said...

The Mooselimb apologists will jump up and say that Christianity was violent as well. The difference is that while violence was done in the name of Christianity centuries ago, Mooselimbs are still at it today.

Anonymous said...

What evidence is there that the military has become anything other than the rest of society- more secular? While it is true that 8 years of war causes Soldiers to think about what is important to them, it doesn't change their basic identity.

Anonymous said...

Combat has a way of turning atheists into true believers in God. And, unless you've tasted real combat, don't bother trying to understand. You can't.

Use the Name, Luke said...

Anon 5:15,

To add to what you wrote:

Yes, violence has been done in the name of Christianity. However, it violated the teachings of the Bible. Furthermore, the violence frequently cited is often thoroughly overstated. For example, one number I've heard about witches being burned at the stake would have required something like 35 witches burned an hour, 24/7 for more than 100 years and would have killed something like 70% of the adult female population of Europe.

On the other hand, the Q'ran commands warfare against unbelievers.

"When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way. God is forgiving and merciful."
—Surah 9:5

McNasty said...

Reliion/cult, same thing.

Anonymous said...

a religion starts as a cult until it has enough adherents to be socially acceptable

Anonymous said...

I believe in academics a cult must have a living leader. After the leader dies I think it is classified as a sect. Once a sect is large enough it is classified as a religion.

Bobby said...

"Reliion/cult, same thing."

---So you think the Catholic church and the Branch Davidians are the same thing? A religion doesn't use mind control, they don't manipulate you, they don't demand that you give them all your money or that you wear a stupid uniform or that you give up your individuality.

Anonymous said...

was that last comment being ironic ?

Mr. Clean said...

"I must be missing something here. Can't… quite… put… my… finger… on… it…"

Your brain.

Bobby said...

No, I don't think religion is a cult.

Use the Name, Luke said...

So Mr. Clean, you're finally using a handle! Congratulations.

Too bad you missed the point.