Tuesday, December 03, 2013

Conversion of Jews unmentionable

Christians have long prayed for the conversion of the Jews.  They do it to this day in my old Presbyterian church.  But some people do more than pray -- they  evangelize Jews.  Jews tend to find that obnoxious.  But should Jews actively oppose and block such evangelism?  It seems they do -- JR

George W. Bush granted Messianic Jews a brief shining moment in the spotlight last week — and then just as quickly sent them back into the shadows.

The Messianic Jewish Bible Institute in Dallas had advertised Bush as the keynote speaker at its annual fundraiser on Nov. 14, prominently featuring the former president’s appearance on its website alongside pages describing the group’s mission to bring “Jewish people into a personal relationship of faith with Yeshua the Messiah.”

But after a reporter for Mother Jones wrote about the fundraiser, any mention of the dinner disappeared from the institute’s site. Otherwise solicitous staff refused comment. Bush went ahead with the speech behind closed doors.

The turn of events is emblematic of what Messianic Jews have faced since their emergence in the 1960s: a tantalizing taste of acceptance followed by a pronounced repudiation by the mainstream Jewish community.



Anonymous said...

"Christians have long prayed for the conversion of the Jews..."

Just as the world has long prayed for the elimination of Jews.

Anonymous said...

The sometimes fanatical urge to go out evangelizing to convert people, even those of another religion, is a "viral meme" and works in the same way as a biological virus or parasite - taking over the brain or other organs of the host to promote the spreading of the parasite or meme.

stinky said...

Kinda like the sometimes fanatical urge to pseudo-intellectualize your existing prejudices, Anon 4:09.

Anonymous said...

I don't really see the problem.
One of Christ's parting messages was to take the message of the gospel to the whole world.
That necessarily involves the conversion of Jews and Gentiles.
So, why should any Christian be ashamed of proselyting to anyone since it is a fundamental part of their religion?

Anonymous said...

What makes Christians think that they are superior ?

Anonymous said...

Anon 1:33 asked a good question: "What makes Christians think that they are superior?".

The answer is nothing. To be a Christian you must first acknowledge the fact that you personally are flawed and there is nothing you can personally do to eliminate those flaws.

Life as a Christian is then built upon allowing the power of God to separate you from those flaws (also known as sins). However one of the commands from God to Christians is to share the Good News with others and another command is to talk to God (pray) about your life so it is only natural for Christians to pray for the conversion of anyone.

Such a prayer is an act of love and concern for the person or group being prayed for, not some sort of pseudo superiority like you suggested.

Anonymous said...

12:23 PM -so I'm fanatical just to make a valid point here, as opposed to the endless and often extremely aggressive and violent proselytzing by religious adherents throughout history, especially when they managed to infect and infest even the state apparatus of whole countries and empires, which not infrequently resulted in persecutions and even genocides that still go on today!

Anonymous said...

So 3:32 why do you think people are "flawed" or as Christians have it, "original sin", meaning they were born that way, so God must have made them that way or allowed them to be born that way, which means there was no personal choice to born flawed, but then this God then demands his puppets to seek his forgiveness for what the God itself created. Sounds very bizarre if not sadistic!

Anonymous said...

Anon 4:27 -- Original sin is an invention and doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church and not Christianity as a whole. Ask a Roman Catholic why they believe that bit of nonsense.