They whine about what they have to endure in America -- the terrible pain of prayers being said within earshot of them, mainly. They don't know whem they are well off. It's America's Christian traditions that give them tolerance and respect for their views
"An Indonesian civil servant who declared himself an atheist on Facebook was arrested and is now facing jail for blasphemy after being attacked by an angry mob, police said today.
Alexander An, 30, who wrote "God doesn't exist" on his Facebook page, was beaten by a mob of dozens on Wednesday in his hometown in Pulau Punjung, West Sumatra province.
"He is suspected of having blasphemed against Islam," local police chief Chairul Aziz told AFP.
"The man told police investigators that if God really exists and has absolute power, why didn't he prevent bad things from happening in this world."
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Could you imagine if some chrisian fanatics had attacked a atheist or the atheists was arrested for blastfomy here in america? You can bet it would be on the front pages of every birdcage linner/parrots toilet the talking heads would be on it for days and the ACLU would file suit in the atheists behalf
Clearly we in the west must step up our one way tolerance and understanding of muslims!
Anon 3:50 - why the animosity toward the U.S.? Just settle down and accept that the citizens here are working out life's little problems as are people everywhere.
If we take or have taken ideas from elsewhere (and we have) we have also given inspiration to others over the last couple centuries, and continue to do so.
Study the process of setting up our constitution and those involved and you will find that Christian principles were commonly held by those who wrote it. As mentioned in other posts, this country was founded on Christian principles. Separation of church and state is the result of our founding father's knowledge of what happened in European counties where there was a state church. They saw a bad example and decided to not follow it.
"And so should all atheists be dealt with. Then hang them."
I am an atheist and I am well hung. I feel sorry for you and your itsy bitsy wee wee.
I have never understood these types of laws. If God exists and you reject him, doesn't that carry its own punishment when you meet the Maker?
Anon 1:27 said:
"I am an atheist and I am well hung. I feel sorry for you and your itsy bitsy wee wee..."
No, you are an atheist who should be hung well, and publicly. As for my itsy bitsy wee wee, it only appeared that way because your mother wasn't wearing her glasses.
7:16 - So you admit that Christian intolerance even of each other was reined in by the effects of the 18th century anti-clerical movement that led to the "European Enlightenment" which had a very good effect in the British American colonies, and prevented an established "Church of the United States". So sad that Christian fundamentalism has tried to drag the US back to a quasi-religious country (as mentioned in other comments).
9:00AM - you are very mistaken or just too lazy to check things out before you spout forth your ignorance. Why not, for example, look at YouTube and refs to atheists and you will see plenty of criticisms of islam, including public debates.
5:52 PM - Have you never heard of "Pascal's Wager"??!!Well, probably not as an ignorant "Christian"!
3:44 If you look closely you will note my name, Dean, printed at the top of my posts.
I doubt very much that there was what you term 'anti-clerical' feelings among the founding fathers. Their motivation was more one of preventing any state church control of government and people's lives. Some of them were quite religious. Some were deists, others may well have been atheists. All felt that religious belief belonged to individuals to decide for themselves, not to government to dictate.
As for the U.S. becoming a quasi-theocracy - it appears we are heading that way. However, we have our constitution to rein that course in, and the probability of becoming a theocracy is low.
If you doubt that, look at us now. We have a quasi-Muslim in the White House.
And if that atheist fool MICHEAL NEWDOW the jerk who tired to get rid of the PLEDGE of ALIGENCE and IN GOD WE TRUST lived over there he would be rotting in prison or get beheaded
Yes, its the old 'tolerance for me but not for thee'.
The practice of Islam tends to correspond with backward countries with poor civil rights and weak rule of law.
See treatment of Christians in Aceh for example.
How does one person's unbelief diminish anyone else's belief?
"As for my itsy bitsy wee wee, it only appeared that way because your mother wasn't wearing her glasses."
Great comeback! However, your all loving god killed my mother with cancer back in '75.
Theres not one thing in the constitution that said about the separation of church and sttae
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