Friday, January 27, 2012

Alaska Airlines ends long tradition of giving passengers prayer cards with in-flight meals



How can you be "offended" by cards such as the above? If you were a real atheist they would just be a pretty card with an old-fashioned message on them. If I called the complainers miserable sick whiners that might justifiably offend them but that is nothing like the cards above
"Alaska Airlines is ending a decades-long tradition of handing out prayer cards with their in-flight meals because an increasing number of passengers were offended by them.

Alaska Airline spokeswoman Bobbie Egan said the decision was made out of respect for all passengers, and follows feedback from customers that they preferred not to mix religion with transportation.

'The decision reflects respect for the diverse religious beliefs and cultural attitudes of Alaska Airlines' customers and employees,' the company said in announcing the change.

'Some customers were comforted by the cards and some didn't feel religion was appropriate on the plane and preferred not to receive one,' she said.

The cards began as a marketing ploy 30 years ago to differentiate the regional airline from its competitors. The company admits the idea was borrowed from another airline.

Since 2006, when the airline stopped offering meals to customers in the main cabin, the cards have only appeared on meal trays in first class.

For a long time, Alaska Airlines got more positive comments than negatives ones. But lately, opinion has shifted.

Source

27 comments:

Unknown said...

They should keep them handy and offer to pass them out whenever there is turbulance.

Menoichius said...

I've never understood how some atheists can be insulted by something they don't believe exists.

Anonymous said...

Okay Daniel, if you were handed cards from an atheist organization when you were a captive public on a plane or similar situation, would you think it appropriate, or reasonable? - Be honest if your religion says you should be honest!

Go Away Bird said...

The ACLU is a leftist organization founded by leftists

Dr. No said...

As a Catholic, i see no rational reason for these cards, as pretty as they are, to be handed to anyone. I don't like people who push their religious (or non-religious) beliefs on me, no matter what the religion.

terrence said...

I have flown on Alaska Air a number of times over the last several years. I have NEVER been given such a card, which I would reject (or keep as a remembrance of out of place religionism...)

Anonymous said...

3:20 - If I were handed a card like you mentioned, I would leave it on the tray. If it was handed out to be personally, I would say a polite "no thank you" and be done with it. What I wouldn't do is pressure a company to discontinue doing something that some folks like and hurts no one.

Kee Bird said...

Terrence you must realy beleive this darwinists poppycock and eberything said by CARL SAGAN and RICHARD DAWKINS You have been lied to by liberals

Anonymous said...

i would continue to hand them out, fuck the crybabies, if they dont want them, hand them back, they would want them if there was some terribe turbulance.

Anonymous said...

If i was an airline I'm not sure I would be passing out prayer cards at all. As shown in the comments here (about how popular they would be during turbulence) the jokes kinda write themselves...

Anonymous said...

I too wondered why Alaska should be giving out their 'prayer' cards on an aeroplane flight. As a person of faith I would rather one good mechanic than a thousand prayer cards when it comes to flight.
This is ultimately a commercial decision for a business and fair enough, but I wonder why Alaskan doesn't simply change the cards to inspiring or uplifting messages from various sources...

Emmanuel said...

Anon 3:20

Why do you expect Daniel to be honest when you are not being honest yourself?

No reasonable person can argue that atheists handing out cards is an analogous situation. Atheists claim what I believe is a fairy tale. So what you have to ask Daniel is, would he be upset if they passed out cards with sayings from the tooth fairy or from the leprechaun guarding the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow?

I am sure that would not offend a Christian, because it is something they know does not exist. They may get a chuckle out of it or may not even bother to think about it. Passing out something that denies their core belief is quite a different situation, however. And that is the honest response my religion requires.

I guess the root of the problem here is, deep down inside, atheists do know that God exists,and that is why they are offended.

Anonymous said...

I guess the root of the problem here is, deep down inside, atheists do know that God exists,and that is why they are offended.
10:13 Please say what you mean by God exists. Where ? In what form ?

Anonymous said...

Emmanuel: Religionists like you just can't get it through their thick delusional skulls that some people think that "God" (whatever that means, as 2:37 has just pointed out) doesn't exist except in the wishful-thinking fantasies of insecure humans on this planet, and even try to represent "atheism" as an alternative "religion", as they are unable to conceive of anyone else not having a similar superstitious mind-set as themselves.
Clearly that airline didn't care to annoy or irritate non-christians or non-religionists, or to see the irony of praying on a flight!!

Joey said...

Here is how some atheist acted on the death bed.
Hobbes was tormented with the thought that his room was haunted with the demons of the pit impatient to drag his away.
Voltaire died in horror, and exclaimed: "I am abandoned by God and man." To his infidel physician he exclaimed: "Doctor, I will give you half of what I am worth if yor will give me six months." He replied: "Sir, you cannot live six weeks." The prince of infidels exclaimed: "Then I shall go to hell and you will go with me!"
Tom Paine spent his last hour alternately cursing God and praying to Christ for "Help!"

Anonymous said...

I think you'll find these so-called death-bed utterances are apocryphal or fabricated. There's even one about Darwin. Soon there'll be one about the recently deceased famous atheist Christopher Hitchens; but in any case, some people near death may be disorientated or hallucinating and so their words are valueless.

Flu-Bird said...

They need to pray everytime they go up

Anonymous said...

It is amazing that so called Christians are insulted by prayer cards, are they insulted by the Holy Bible in people's houses? Prayer is good anywhere.

Anonymous said...

Was Thomas Paine an atheist? I thought he was a deist.

Menoichius said...

@Anon 3:20 - I'd think it was a bit odd, and either toss it in the seat back pocket or use it as a coaster. Of course, that's assuming I even bothered to read it. It certainly wouldn't offend me or make me question my beliefs.

Emmanuel said...

Anon 3:52

I apologize for a late repsonse. I am sorry you feel the need to attack me instaed of my argument, clearly I have failed at communicating my thoughts in a manner all can comprehend.

My point is this. If my beliefs, and those printed on the parayer cards are "wishful thinking fantasies" why does it upset you so? Am I not free to believe how I wish? Isn't that what makes diversity and multiculturalism so powerful - the different perspectives in thought and experience?

Yes, I know God exists. he is the creator of all and we were created in his image so his image exists in us all.

Some people like to atack my beliefs and call them fairy tales, yet have you ever read how science proposes that life began on this planet? Fairy tales indeed!

Peace, shalom, mir' my brother. I will pray for you.

Anonymous said...

Emmanuel: Unlike you, "science" doesn't pretend to know how life began on this planet. Scientists do careful methodical research to discover the possibilities. You, on the other hand, without any qualification or special "insight" whatsoever think you know, and even that it was some "God" directly responsible. You cannot possibly know anymore than any other human being on this planet and the fact you think you do suggests delusional arrogance, that a psychologist would probably put down to insecurity requiring a "safety blanket" in the form of a supernatural parent surrogate that imparts to you a framework to live by and protect you from all uncertainties in life (aka. a fantasy world of your own imagination, re-inforced by people of like mind, aka. fellow religionists).

Anonymous said...

...and forget about the patronizing "I will pray for you". I just hope you will "get real"!

Emmanuel said...

Anon 4:42

Another illogical reply. Why does my belief system incite such rage in you?

IF you would please reread my post, I did not say science knew how life began, the word I used was propose. I said they have proposed what they believe are possible valid hypotheses for how life began. Of course, we cannot duplicate that feat, so science may never uncover the mystery.

So back to the point, the scientific possibilities are every bit as unprovable as belief in a creator. Additionally, they are more complex, which leads one to believe thay are even less probable.

Still, others may believe that a giant purple panda chases the sun across the sky every day and the earth is really just some giant's head. Surprisingly, that does not bother me. What does all your psychoanalysis say about why that bothers you?

I do not want you to feel that I am patronizing you, but you are on my prayer list. Peace, Shalom, mir'.

Anonymous said...

Emmanuel - science is increasing in its understanding about the origin of life and of the whole Cosmos by leaps and bounds, with actual scientific backing to support it. What kind of backing does your God-based theory have? Just some constantly edited scribblings from superstitious desert tribesmen from millennia ago, or from the followers (and not even co-existing) of one of numerous charismatic rabbis in a backwater of the Roman Empire?.

Anonymous said...

@Emmanuel- Sorry, you and small children believe in invisible magic friends. The difference is some small children grow up and face the real world where they develop their own opinions, take responsibility for their own actions, and try to learn about the amazing world we live in.

The rest get their opinions from a 2000 yr old storybook, credit or blame mystical forces for things that happen to them, and cling to insanely impossible ideas about how we got where we are and how it got created.

Guess which camp your side falls into...

Anonymous said...

A little insider info from a former worker, w/over 20 years, at Alaska Airlines (employee # AS8000). Clearly, starting an Airline in Alaska over 75 years ago in the harsh Alaska wilderness was extremely difficult and required the supernatural protections of God,

Sources who founded Alaska Airlines over 75 years ago were likely Christians.

The Prayer Leaflets were apparently to honor God who protected and blessed the founders building the Airline in the Alaska tundra over 75 years ago. If you have experienced to goodness of God, God will not be out done. So, the Leaflets turned into a competitive advantage (no other airline had Prayer Leaflets). Alaska Airlines appealed to Christians and sources in the company dare not touch the Leaflets while CEO Bruce Kennedy was alive, he passed in 2009.

In 2010 or 2011 Emirates Airlines became a code share partner of Alaska Airlines. As a result Muslims and high ranking Arab sources and Emirates Airline officials were now flying Alaska Airlines from Los Angeles, etc. to connect with non-stop Emirates Air flight from Seattle to Dubai.

The long standing Alaska Airlines Christian tradition of the Prayer Leaflets were REMOVED only to please Muslims now regularly flying Alaska Airlines and to solidify the Alaska Airlines and Emirates Airline code share alliance.

This is far from over Alaska Airlines "officials" will eventually have to answer to this I promise you!