Covering up Christian symbols in a church building is carrying the delegitimization of Christianity to a new extreme. And the Methodists who agreed to it show how weak in their faith Methodists have become. They are now just another pissweak "mainstream" church. Next thing they'll be replacing their communion wine with Scotch Whisky.
It seems to me a plain case of denying Christ. Jesus said, “But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven” (Matt. 10:33).
School officials in Neptune Township, N.J., have bowed to the demands of the ACLU and will cover decades-old religious signs posted in the historic Great Auditorium to allow a 70-year tradition of high school graduations to continue.
Instead of the sign, "Holiness to the Lord," a banner will be posted over it saying, "Neptune Township School District ... A Community of Learners." In addition, a banner with the words "So Be Ye Holy" will be covered with another banner saying, “Neptune High School: A School of Excellence and No Excuses."
The new banners are meant to appease the American Civil Liberties Union, which had demanded the school district remove all religious signs and symbols from the Methodist-owned auditorium in Ocean Grove, claiming it made non-Christians attending public school graduations feel uncomfortable.
The conflict began after the grandmother of one of last year's graduates complained not only about the large white cross adorning the top of the buildings' facade, but of the religious signs inside, and what she felt was a heavily religious tone to the ceremony, which included student-led invocations and the singing of Christian hymns, most notably "Onward Christian Soldiers."
The school agreed to cut out the student-led invocations and the hymns. But the 6,500-seat Great Auditorium is run by the Camp Meeting Association. It is the iconic, center piece of the Methodist Church-based organization's property, which comprises the bulk of the land in Ocean Grove.
The historical building had become the site for both civic and community events. The association agreed to cover the cross on the inside, but not the cross on the outside or the antique lighted religious signs.
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I thought the church did all this for the school for free? The church shouldn't have backed down.
If the Methodists or any church want to hire out or lend out their properties for secular events, then it is reasonable that they cover up the religious items displayed in them, if the events have nothing to do with religion or their church activities.
No, it is not reasonable that they hide the reason for their very existance. If the school doesn't like the fact that they are in a church, they are free to go elsewhere.
Time to totaly abolish the lefists ACLU to revoke its tax exempt status and to throw its leftists leader pigs clean out of the country
Yes they are free to go elsewhere and they should. If the hall was lent freely then it's no loss to the church, but if the church wants income from hiring then the church should satisfy some conditions, like non-religious decoration while hired out for secular events.
That's totally ridiculous. Whether the church charges or not is not the issue. The issue is, if there's something about the venue that bothers you, get on your broom and go elsewhere! And, if you've paid for a place that you dislike, then you're too stupid to get your money back anyway.
Does Hurtz change the color of the cars they rent simply because some professional whiner dislikes their colors?
"Does Hurtz change the color of the cars they rent simply because some professional whiner dislikes their colors?"
No. either does Hertz.
No. either does Hertz.
9:05 AM
No, neither does Hertz.Check your own post before slamming another's.
amanbe3.
As I understand the story, the church has allowed the school to use the facilities for DECADES at no cost for their graduation ceremonies as it is the biggest venue around. Last year someones granny felt intimidated by being in a church and didn't like the prayers and hymns sung during the service, therefore calling down the hounds of hell (ACLU) upon them.
Frankly, if I was the church leader there, I would have told them it was our facility, if you want to use it fine, but don't try to change anything.
Anon 9;32 said;
"9:05 AM
No, neither does Hertz.Check your own post before slamming another's."
Thank you...
Once again the problem is neither the christian symbols, nor those that feel uncomfortable around them. The problem is the state run education system. The problem is the lack of choice. If this were a private school, this would never happen, because granny would be able take here business to a secular school if she didn't like the venue of the graduations. Instead she has no alternative. She is forced to pay for this school no matter what she does. This leads to less competition and the inability to afford what alternatives do exist. The clear answer is to dismantle the department of education, stop the robbery of property tax, and put the responsibility and cost of education on the parents. Where it belongs.
I'm an atheist without children, and I really don't care what you teach your children. I don't care who teaches your children, or where they learn. I just want to stop being robbed. The modern American education system is not about educating children anyways. It is about indoctrinating them as good little tax paying automatons. It crushes individualism and rational thought. If you want to do that to your children, I wont try to stop you, but don't steal from me to finance the abuse of these children, and when I have children, god help you if you if you try this on them.
I feel badly for the Methodists. They are just trying to help their local community.
As the saying goes, no good deed goes unpunished.
These Methodists and some members of other churches may be genuinely trying to help the community, but others are just trying to extend their influence, whether religious or otherwise, or simply being presumptuous about their status in the community.
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