Durham, NC, police probe allegations that officers made anti-Obama remarks in a private forum
Disparaging the sacred child! How awful!
"Derogatory remarks toward President-elect Barack Obama made on a social networking Web site are now the subject of an internal police investigation. A police department employee claims the statements were made on the MySpace pages of two Durham officers.
"There's no exact words that were said," said Police Chief Jose L. Lopez Sr. in a telephone interview Wednesday from San Diego, where he is attending the International Association of Chiefs of Police conference. ``It wasn't a racial slur, but we're still investigating it.''
The department's code of conduct, under the heading ``private life,'' states that an officer's ``character and conduct while off duty must always be exemplary, thus maintaining a position of respect in the community in which he or she lives and serves. The officer's personal behavior must be beyond reproach.''
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So it's a sign of bad character to criticize Obama?
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Criticism of Obama = Racist Behavior
Adulation of Obama = Post Racial Society
This is Amerika - God help us all.
It sounds like they expect their police officers to be officers 24 hours a day. Do they pay them 24 hours a day?
The on-going attempt to turn Obama into a deity, led mostly by the media, is an attempt to keep the people from seeing how empty and shallow the real Obama is. He will be the first president in our history who will be above reproach and criticism of any kind, from anyone. To criticize him in any way, for any reason, will be instantly labeled as racist hate-speech. (take note, those of you who are dumb enough to think this is still a free country)!
I listened to a conversation on MSNBC "news" this morning, (no surprise here) where they were equating Obama not only with FDR, but Lincoln and JFK! The comment was, "he is all of them, and more". Of course, there was no one there to ask the obvious question, based on what?
It sounds like they expect their police officers to be officers 24 hours a day. Do they pay them 24 hours a day?
They are officers 24 hours a day and get certain priviledges for it. Such priviledges include carrying a weapon in circumstances where others would not be able to. If an off duty police officer shoots someone, the incident is reguarded as one of a police shooting - not a shooting by a civilian. Such shootings would involve review boards, etc.
While this incident and investigation does seem a little like a witch hunt, the fact of the matter is that police are held to a different standard within their private lives.
Police are not members of the military who are expected to give total allegiance and support to the commander in chief. They have every right to express whatever opinion they have in their private lives. It makes me very nervouse to see attempts to squelch any criticism or negative comments about the president. It sounds a lot like certain other countries where doing so can result in jail time. Is that where we are headed?
"The comments were not a racial slur, but we are still investigating." Why?
You must not criticize Comrade Glorious Supreme Leader Obama! We at the Obama Truth Squad are taking names and retribution and reeducation will begin 1/21/2009. You have been warned!
"Police are not members of the military who are expected to give total allegiance and support to the commander in chief. "
In the US military the allegiance is to the office, not the person. Plus it is not total allegiance, they do not have to follow unlawful orders as laid out in the UMCJ.
Let's see. Criticizing a man who promotes the killing of babies is not OK. This country is really f*cked up.
"They are officers 24 hours a day and get certain priviledges for it."
And just what priviledges would those be? FYI, there are many jurisdictions in this country that do not allow off-duty police officers to be armed. And all police officers are subject to the same laws, rules, and regulations as civilians are, and then some! Police Officers are simply members of your community who have chosen a profession that requires they do the things the rest of that community is unwilling and/or incapable of doing, and for a whole lot less than any of you would accept.
An off-duty police officer involved in a shooting is treated differently than any others are, but why? Why are they held to a higher standard when that same community doesn't hold it's elected officials, doctors, lawyers, bankers, (and themselves) etc. to higher standards?
We put these people out there to protect us, yet we won't protect them. We mandate that they enforce the laws that WE have enacted, (via our corrupt, lying, elected officials) yet we resent them for keeping us from doing whatever it is we want to do.
There is nothing in any rules or laws that require police officers to be "active" 24 hours a day. In fact, in many places, that notion is frowned upon. When you do see an off-duty officer risk his life and career to save someone, it's done purely out of dedication. Can his community say the same thing?
And just what priviledges would those be?
Priviledges of a police officer while off duty.
Also, try Googling "professional courtesy police" and see how many policemen feel that writing or getting written up for traffic violations is wrong.
FYI, there are many jurisdictions in this country that do not allow off-duty police officers to be armed.
I am not sure what you consider "many," but the vast majority require off duty police to be armed (when practical) or give the officers the choice of being armed when off duty.
An off-duty police officer involved in a shooting is treated differently than any others are, but why?
Because they are treated as officers, not regular citizens. When a policeman shoots someone, how many times do you see that policeman in cuffs, even while waiting for on scene investigations to take place? How many times have you seen a citizen not in cuffs after shooting someone?
There is nothing in any rules or laws that require police officers to be "active" 24 hours a day.
No one said they were "active" 24 hours a day. However, the majority of communites require that the police be available to be "active" at a moments notice, such as when they witness a crime taking place.
When you do see an off-duty officer risk his life and career to save someone, it's done purely out of dedication. Can his community say the same thing?
You know, there are a lot of people who risk their lives to save others who do it because it is the right thing to do. They aren't policemen or firefighters or medics. They are just regular people who help others. That is not to say that the police aren't dedicated, but the same dedication that you speak of in police is in communities that produce the men and women that become police.
Annon 9, you obviously live in a dream world, totally detached from reality.
Wow- hang on just a second here. No-one here knows anything about what comments were made, only that they apparently were not racial.
Can we suspend judgement on this until we know something about the nature of the comments.
If they are typical policital comment - fair enough, leave them alone. If they are death threats or the like, something different should happen.
Anon 3:14,
Annon 9, you obviously live in a dream world, totally detached from reality.
Your comment will be given all the consideration it is due.
Federal law overrides all others.
Both off duty, and retired officers are permitted to carry a weapon, regardless of local law.
Federal law overrides all others.
The 9th Amendment of the Constitution says otherwise.
Anon 1:28 - I'm going to have to assume that you aren't serious, because the alternative is that you're retarded. The 9th amendment merely states that the Bill of Rights isn't all inclusive. Federal law does override all others, it's called the Supremacy Clause (Article VI, clause 2).
Anon 7:27,
I am going to have to assume that either you have a reading disorder or a comprehension disorder. (Are we done with the ad hominem attacks now?)
The Supremacy Clause is still restricted by the 9th Amendment. In other words, just because the Federal government makes a law does not mean that it is within their Constitutional authority or to require it to be enforced.
Your statement that "Federal law overrides all others" is overly broad and incorrect.
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