Wednesday, September 21, 2011

Va. county school board sued over Ten Commandments

The Ten Commandments are bad, but it is apparently OK to indoctrinate kids into believing that homosexuality is normal and the USA is evil! Leftism is a religion too.
"Civil-liberties groups are suing a southwest Virginia school board for posting the Ten Commandments, contending that the display violates the Constitution's guarantee of separation of church and state.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Virginia filed the lawsuit Tuesday against Giles County School Board in U.S. District Court in Roanoke on behalf of an unidentified Narrows High School student and the student's parent.

After removing them during the school year, school board members voted in June to rehang the biblical texts as part of displays that include other U.S. historical documents.

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17 comments:

sig said...

They should display the "New England Primer" as well.

This is a school textbook first printed in the late 1680's that remained popular and widely used throughout the Colonies and later the United States until the 1790's. The primer remained in print and in use well into the 19th century and was even used until the 20th century.

The contents would surely shock the sh*t out of any Liberal.

TheOldMan said...

There is no guaranteed separation of church and state! The 1st Amendment's Establishment Clause prohibits the federal, state or municipal establishment of a religion or other preference for one religion over another, non-religion over religion, or religion over non-religion.

Anonymous said...

"The 1st Amendment's Establishment Clause prohibits the federal, state or municipal establishment of a religion"

No it doesn't. It actually only restrains the federal congress as in, "Congress shall make no laws regarding the establishment of Religion or the free exercise thereof."

At the time of the signing of the USCON, 7 of the thirteen colonies had state churches, and continuued to have them well into the 1800's.

The religion clause was put into the USCON to prevent the establishment of a NATIONAL Church in order to protect the various state and private churches from being dominated by one all-powerful national church such as happened in England.

Anonymous said...

You guys still talking about mythology? Jebus!

stinky said...

Anon 4:03,

No it doesn't. It actually only restrains the federal congress...

That's my understanding, too. The restraint was specifically applied to Congress only, in order not to interfere with state religion, and esp (IIRC) the blasphemy laws of the day. Not sure, since I;m not an American, if it is considered "incorporated" now, tho.

In any event, the bigger issue here is that pretty much all of history, all times and places, include religion, and many of the historical religious teachings (e.g. "Thou shalt not murder; thou shalt not steal, etc") are good and moral advice.


Anon 6:20 (aka Troll),

You should read Ecclesiastes for a foreshadowing of your own self in a few years' time.

Anonymous said...

I believe the first amendment has been incorporated to the States via the Supreme Court. This still means that States cannot establish a State Religion. It should not mean that religion be banned from all public venues. Such actions violate the First Amendment in that they cannot prevent the free exercise thereof. Disallowing citizens from celebrating in public venues or utilizing public facilities for worship or celebration violates the first amendment. That should include Christmas displays. In this case, however, the religious document is displayed as a historical document showing influence of that document upon the creation of laws and constitution of the United States. Banning all religious items from public venue is draconian Marxist bullshit.

Anonymous said...

Do you think this nation of weak sheep will allow their religious beliefs and practices to be manipulated, and eventually done away with, by the Godless one's of the Left?

Yes.

jwenting said...

The establishment clause used to apply only to the federal government, but under the 14th (?) ammendment which applies clauses of the constitution applying to the federal government to the states as well it can be argued that the establishment clause applies to the states.

Whichever it is, it still doesn't ban schools or any other state funded institutions from endorsing a religion, it only bans them from forcing people to join that religion.

Anonymous said...

"Do you think this nation of weak sheep will allow their religious beliefs and practices to be manipulated, and eventually done away with, by the Godless one's of the Left?

Yes."

And they will as well give in to the institution of Sharia Law. If you are a Christian, doubt it not. Sharia Law is coming sooner than you think. And it WILL come. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Anonymous said...

It's coming? Apparently, you haven't visited Dearborn, MI. lately. It's already here!

Bird of Paradise said...

And theyll replace it with PRAYERS TO GAIA or the PLEDGE TO THE EARTH posters

Anonymous said...

So is that any worse?

stinky said...

So is that any worse?

Historically, yes.

E.G. Genghis Khan, an animist. Or if you prefer a distributed example, the rate of violent death long before organized religion - back when most people were animists, spirits of the earth believers, whatever - exceeded the rate of violent death that came afterwards.

Bird of Paradise said...

The ACLU was founded bya closet communists It needs to be totaly disbanded

Anonymous said...

Stinky - such number-games are impossible to evaluate objectively, especially when dealing with ancient and pre-history (and presumably globally); unless of course you are relying on human history before mono-theism going back so very far that your case might be likely (and you did use the phrase "long before").

stinky said...

such number-games are impossible to evaluate objectively...

Incorrect: the archeological evidence is overwhelming.

It continues from pre-civ tribal cultures right up thru modern times and indicates a more violent past than present, and that the rate of violence was worse before organized religion came along.

Organized religion is oft abused by hypocrites, but the teachings themselves appear to accompany a decrease, not an increase in violence, indicating that they can partially but not completely inoculate a society.

As is usual with history, it's not the stories but the trendlines that reveal the most.

Anonymous said...

I guess atom bombs were less violent than fighting with BC technology -?