Cross an offensive symbol?
Australia:
"Shane Pye, who lives in the Melbourne suburb of Chadstone, was shocked to see a 2m wooden crucifix materialise outside his neighbour's housing commission flat [welfare apartment] this week.
But Leonard Thuraisingham, a devout Christian, refuses to remove the structure.
Mr Pye, who lives in a rear flat at the Aloomba St address, said he was not consulted about the cross, which stands beside a shared driveway.
He has complained to the Office of Housing, and the dispute now threatens to end a close friendship. "I am not against religion. I just do not want it shoved down my throat and that is what it's going to do every time I walk out the front of my yard," Mr Pye said. "I just believe it has to come down."
Office of Housing spokesman Brendan Ryan said the cross was on Mr Thuraisingham's property and there were no grounds for action.
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18 comments:
Some people have turned whining into a hobby, and in some cases, a business.
Sounds to me like Mr. Pye needs to get off his high horse and get his butt into church!
The "offence of the Cross" . The cross was used as an instrument of state execution. Hang mans noose , gas chamber , electric chair , guillotine ,or just a bullet pocked wall . If you don't like Jesus and don't believe he is who he said he is , revel in it .
I believe Jesus is who he said he is . I love Jesus . The cross is the instrument chosen by God to sacrifice for my sin . I revel in the cross .
As offencive as it is , for or against , you gotta like it .
Ishgebor
Maybe both parties should try to speak directly and work things out rather than resort to lawyers and threats?
For the Housing Commission to say they can't do anything is crap. Public housing is not private property. I agree with Mr Pye, don't shove your religion in my face.
Issues like this will create local frontyard warfare with icons deliberately designed to offend others.
Religion is a personal thing, keep it that way.
Mr Pye could erect large satanic symbols on "his" property and give his neighbor a taste of his own medicine.
Anon 8:59, why should they when they can get their 15 minutes of fame.
"... the dispute now threatens to end a close friendship ..."!
With close friends like that, I wouldn't care to meet an enemy.
What kind of person would fail to warn someone who seems to be in danger?
Luke, you're in danger - watch out!
(a warning from a kind person).
"What kind of person would fail to warn someone who seems to be in danger?
Conservatives, of course.
Warning to Anon and Mongo: Refusing to think frequently leads to all manner of dangerous consequences.
Luke forgot to list himself with Anon and Mongo.
That's… interesting…
How do an ad hominem attacks constitute thinking about the question I asked?
Lookey here Luke: The responses to your question reflected your presumption to know what only seemed a danger but was in any case simply an excuse to try and influence or even impose your abstract views on an unwilling or uninterested person, who could just as well say you were in danger too for reasons you would disagree with in like manner.
At last, someone actually addressing the point instead of (solely) simply name calling!
"an excuse to try and influence or even impose your abstract views on an unwilling or uninterested person"
How exactly is that supposed to work? What are those "abstract views"?
For "abstract views" read "religious views" - tho' the likes of Luke like to conflate the two as if dangers in the physical material world are like dangers to the "immaterial soul" in the merely presumed "afterlife".
You're assuming two things:
—That the Bible is not true, which is begging the question.
—That the Christian in question actually believes what you believe and not the Bible, which is clearly ridiculous.
The point is that the Christian in this article (and most Christians) ARE trying to look out for others' best interests. We're convinced that you are in danger, and it's wrong to willingly look the other way when someone is in danger.
If the motivation was to somehow make things better for ourselves (which you've frequently claimed) then the best course of action would be to just shut up. Jesus warned us that the world would hate us because of Him, and experience bears that out. Your theory about our motivations does not match up with our actions.
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